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    • volmo
      volmo last edited by

      Hello

      Let s' say i am working for a multiservice company , sort of general contractor. We have a website using company name . Myccompany.com

      I ve been asked  to make a new website owned by the same company but specific to the multisites multitechnic maintenance activity , which has beeger clients with specific needs

      seo wise, is it better to call the seconde site myccompany-maintenance.com or to give a brand to the activity and call it  let's say newcompany.com  (by myccompany )

      I would go for the second solution to avoid confusion in the the serp ? is it good to reuse the brand  in domains ? ( small company )

      I hope my question is clear 😄 I  l listen to any advice , tks !

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      • sarahwalsh
        sarahwalsh last edited by

        On our website, we readily mention our company name, that is Kingsley, as we want people to be able to find our fencing company online, via our business name

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        • volmo
          volmo last edited by

          Hello

          Thanks  AL123al, James and Nigel for your valuable anwsers. I am going to review the situation with point of views  . I ll write down a comment as soon as the decision is made 😄

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          • Nigel_Carr
            Nigel_Carr last edited by

            I would go back to them and ask them why they wouldn't just add a section to their existing website to cover the new multisites multitechnic maintenance activity.

            Option 1

            If you use a sub domain or a concatenation of it as you have shown with the hyphen it simply looks bad from a URL perspective. One could argue that visually it is very spammy. Remember in the not too distant past you would have domains like www.the-best-maintenance-contractor.com (I made that up!) ? - It just looks unprofessional.

            Option 2

            The second option - to set up a new brand involves much more than just buying a new domain. There is a whole host of branding issues and SEO problems to consider:

            No Domain Authority
            New Logo
            New Stationery
            New Socials
            New Email Addresses
            New Google Tools etc etc etc

            Plus the fact that a new brand name and URL can take a year to properly proliferate and find its optimum position in Google. You would effectively be starting from scratch.

            Option 3

            My preference in this case would be to use a folder for the new activity vis:

            myccompany.com/maintenance

            Then use sub categories of that.

            myccompany.com/maintenance/activity1
            myccompany.com/maintenance/activity2

            etc

            This will achieve much better results in SERPS as the company already exists and presumably already has Domain Authority.

            You just need to tell them.

            I hope that helps

            Nigel

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            • AL123al
              AL123al last edited by

              Hi,

              My preference would be the second i.e. a newcompany.com. In fact one of my clients has this scenario. The first company can link to the second and give it some authority. If it is a separate activity not related to the first company I would suggest a new brand. However, a new "company" would need to be distinct from the first company in order for Google not to lump them together. So a different address (if possible) and certainly phone number, social accounts etc.

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